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  • Taking an Axe to the Root of Pornography Addiction

    Many of us deal with bad habits. Some are easy to talk about. We joke about how we need to cut out those “comfort foods” or watch less television. Other obsessions feel deeply private and difficult to discuss, especially in church. Every addiction is planted in a deeper heart problem. Too often, the church has addressed sexual addictions by simply telling us to “stop” without digging deeper to the root of the issue. Today, Gary explores some of the fears and heart wounds that can lead to pornography addiction.

    Many of us deal with bad habits. Some are easy to talk about. We joke about how we need to cut out those “comfort foods” or watch less television. Other obsessions feel deeply private and difficult to discuss, especially in church. Every addiction is planted in a deeper heart problem. Too often, the church has addressed sexual addictions by simply telling us to “stop” without digging deeper to the root of the issue. Today, Gary explores some of the fears and heart wounds that can lead to pornography addiction.

    What are the ultimate ramifications of being addicted to pornography?

    Gary Wilkerson replied, “My personal opinion and belief is that what Satan is really after is not necessarily to get a man or woman to look at pornography but to start being so stuck in that pattern of shame, of relief from the shame, by viewing something that brings us temporary pleasure.

    “That cycle continues for such a long time unbroken without victory that ultimately, I believe the enemy's after our faith, like, ‘Are you ever going to really be set free? Is God strong enough to help you with this? How come you've cried a thousand tears and you're still stuck? Why is there no hope? Why have you repented, and you still have this deep, deep drive to go back to the same thing that you kind of hate but you kind of love?’

    “Ultimately Satan is after God. He's after our view of God: that God's not for us, he's not strong, he's not powerful, he's not on our side, he doesn't care about us, we’ve failed so much that he's forgotten us, we're such losers and such sinners that we're no longer in his grace or favor so he's cast us out. So, Satan, that's really when he gets his ultimate victory.”

     

    How did you find freedom from pornography addiction?

    “I think most people never get free because they're only dealing with pornography or masturbation or lust. "I've got to stop lusting." "I've got to stop masturbating." "I've got to stop looking at pornography." They're not dealing with what's underneath. They go to church, and they might hear a whole series about sexual sin or whatever, and it's almost always dealing with, "Don't do this." "Men, don't look at that." "Let's have covenant with our eyes." "Let's have an accountability partner." It can be good if used the right way, but they're looking at the surface issue.

    “For me, my freedom came when I looked underneath the surface, and I realized there's loneliness there and that there was a sense of fulfillment. There was a sense of being insignificant and that gave me a sense, "All these women—" It’s a weird feeling in pornography. It's like, "These women want me. They're attracted to me. I must be really masculine. I must be really powerful." If you feel like you're lacking power and you go to pornography to get that, or you feel like you're lacking significance and you go to get that. "I must be of significance because these women seem to be just showering their love all over me."

    “If you just deal with stop wanting that love, stop wanting that power, stop wanting that affection, stop wanting that intimacy, it's not going to be enough because you were built to be loved, accepted, and have intimacy. It's just that you're looking in the wrong places for it, and so to deal with the issue of “Why do I feel unempowered? Why do I feel less than? Why do I not feel masculine—or feminine, for women? Why do I not feel accepted?” As I started dealing with those issues, I realized that God created me as someone who is significant. He created me as someone who's sufficient, who's lovable, who belongs,” answered Gary Wilkerson.

     

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

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  • Faith and Fitness: Don't Do Either Alone

    Our physical fitness and spiritual life affect one another in surprising ways. Unfortunately, this relationship has often been ignored or misrepresented in the church. This week Eric Cartier, Senior Pastor of Rocky Mountain Calvary, joins Gary Wilkerson to look at the gracious and good connection God has made between our bodies and our souls.

    Our physical fitness and spiritual life affect one another in surprising ways. Unfortunately, this relationship has often been ignored or misrepresented in the church. This week Eric Cartier, Senior Pastor of Rocky Mountain Calvary, joins Gary Wilkerson to look at the gracious and good connection God has made between our bodies and our souls.

    Pastor Eric, with such a busy schedule, is it challenging to find time to maintain your physical health?

    “I would say traditionally in the past it was, now it's not. I've seen the value of it and I've started to enjoy it. It really has to be a priority otherwise it doesn't happen. I think motivation wise, something I've wrestled through with is some false guilt probably, like, ‘Man, I should be giving this time to preparing a message,’ or I feel bad in taking the time to go to the gym or run when that's time I could spend with the kids. There's a little bit of foresight or looking into the future of, ‘Man, if I do this, this'll actually give me more time with the kids down the road.’ I battle that like not only not having the time, but I should be using this time differently,” answered Pastor Eric Cartier.

    Have being intentional about fitness and nutrition helped you have more energy and better concentration?

    Pastor Eric replied, “Yes, it really has. The biggest thing that I notice is when I go and workout, the mental fog really clears. A lot of times as a pastor I'm thinking about decisions that need to be made, problems that are going, praying for vision, and it can be overwhelming and before you know it you're just in a bit of a fog. After the workout, it just seems like that fog is cleared. If I'm intentional, then that provides a really fresh slate to meet with the Lord, just for Him to speak to me in the midst of the workout, or at the end of the workout.

    “I definitely feel like I have more energy preaching as well, we have three-weekend services, and so by eating right, staying hydrated, having some exercise in my weekly routine, it's a lot easier to have energy throughout those three services, come home and not be as exhausted.”

    How are faith and fitness connected?

     

    “It seems like it's one of Paul's favorite illustrations to look at the athlete and then to draw parallels with our faith. In 1 Corinthians 9, he talks about athletes running to win a temporal prize, but he wants to win the eternal prize, but then he said he disciplines his body. What I found is that discipline seems to carry over into other areas, like when you discipline your body in nutrition and fitness, that also carries over into your faith,” responded Pastor Eric.

    Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified. – 1 Corinthians 9:24-27

    He continued, “Then, I love too, when you are working out with other people or even going on a walk with someone else, it really gives you a chance to get into their lives in a unique way that without fitness you don't have that opportunity.”

    Why do many Christians have a hard time disciplining their bodies in fitness and nutrition?

    “Sometimes in the area of our Christian life, we don't necessarily see the need to discipline our body when it comes to nutrition or fitness like we do with sexual integrity or anger. Those are some of the things that seem to be more traditional for us to focus on. They're legitimate, but when it comes to, ‘How do I take care of this physical body that God has given me?’ I think it's hard even to see that the scriptures and God have guidance for how we eat and if we exercise, and it's highly personal. It's a hard topic to preach on, teach on, venture into because it's so personal. I think some of it is just being open to the reality that God would have instruction for us in nutrition and in fitness,” answered Pastor Eric.

    He continued, “We do fail to see the stewardship of it because when you stop and think about it, the physical body that God has given us is amazing. It really is his temple, that when we take care of it, there's more opportunity to do the Great Commandment: to love God and to love our neighbor, to do the Great Commission. If we don't take care of our body, it really inhibits us from some of the things that God may be calling us to do.”

    What practical advice would you offer someone who wants to get started on their journey with fitness and nutrition?

     

    Pastor Eric responded, “What comes to mind is first focusing on the nutrition. I've really experienced you can't out-exercise bad nutrition. A really simple thing is to really eat things that aren't processed. So if it grows, or you can kill it, eat it, but if you've got to open up a bag… really starting to look at the nutrition piece of it is huge.

    “Finding people to do it with. It's really hard to get consistent in nutrition and exercise if you're not doing it with someone and so looking in your family, your friends, a gym that offers where you can workout in community. I think trainers can be really helpful; finding the right trainer that is going to help you learn how to exercise and what to eat, those are things that are really, really helpful at least for me.”

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

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    About Eric Cartier

    I realized at a young age that the Lord was calling me to reach those without Christ. Through teachings at Applegate Christian Fellowship and Calvary Bible College, God began to equip me for a life of ministry. In March 2000, I accepted a permanent position with Rocky Mountain Calvary that grew into overseeing and ministering to both teenagers and young adults. After five years of service, I was offered the position of senior pastor. I believe the Lord’s house should be one of prayer and that the Bible should be taught verse-by-verse. This allows God’s word to challenge and encourage us to walk in obedience. My desire is to lead by example, to be a disciple and make disciples, and to share God’s loving kindness. I have been married to my beautiful wife, Amber, for 10+ years and we have four children, Hannah, Adelyn, Ileanne, and Wyatt.

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  • Cornerstones for Success in Life and Finances

    Money is sometimes seen as a taboo or touchy subject, but it affects nearly every aspect of our lives. It can open new opportunities or allow us to pass on blessings to our children and others. It can also bring out struggles faster than almost anything else. Investment Advisor and ministry worker Jim Palumbo joins us this week to discuss money and the spiritual impact it can have.

    Money is sometimes seen as a taboo or touchy subject, but it affects nearly every aspect of our lives. It can open new opportunities or allow us to pass on blessings to our children and others. It can also bring out struggles faster than almost anything else. Investment Advisor and ministry worker Jim Palumbo joins us this week to discuss money and the spiritual impact it can have.

    Is having a lot of money and wealth the proper measure of success in life?

    Jim Palumbo answers, “If you're thinking about money, thinking about success, seeking happiness in life, people often correlate it to materialism. If it's not money, it's the things that money can buy, the material goods and possessions or even experiences now are even more important. People say, well forget about things, you have to have grand vacations and experiences; but in reality, those are not the things that we live for. The things that money can buy; they don't satisfy ultimately even if you get to possess them for a time in this life. The satisfaction is fleeting. It's gone very soon.

    “We live for the things that matter the most. That begins with God, family, and others. The foundation of that is Jesus Christ. That is the foundation upon which we build everything. It's our relationship with God, being right with God, understanding that that is our purpose in life: to love God and enjoy him forever.”

    Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. – Matthew 7:24–25

    My relationship with God is good, so why are my finances a mess?

    “Sometimes those situations that are not good are revealing something more on the inside, something needs to happen because those things are wrong, and God allows it. God's a loving Father. He allows those difficult circumstances that people might find themselves in financially, family, stress, and anxieties. He's using those as tools to get you where he wants you to be as a person and your relationship with him,” says Jim Palumbo.

    How are my Christian faith and my finances connected?

    “There are over 2,000 verses in the Bible about money and stewardship. There are twice as many as faith. Further, if you look at the parables, Jesus’ two longest parables are about stewardship, about money, the parable of the talents and also the parable of the unjust steward. These lessons were really important to Jesus. He wanted to teach us about these things.

    “What you're hinting at, Bob, is they're not disconnected at all. They're woven together into a single fabric. The life that we live, our faith toward God is expressed in how we handle the things to which he's entrusted us,” responded Jim Palumbo.

    Is the parable of the talents really about money?

    Jim Palumbo answered, “The parable of the talents is one of my favorites because he is talking about money. But he's talking about everything that goes with it. He's talking about the servant, he gave the money to and then he went away and so occupy till I come. We know this is a metaphor parable about the coming of the Son of God to who? To Israel. That Israel were the people and they were anticipating the Messiah. The Messiah came back and they had not done a good job while he was gone. We get that part of the metaphor.

    “At the same time, if you think about money as fiat currency, money represents materialism. It represents almost everything in this world because it's something you trade for goods. You take some food, and you get food by trading money, and the person takes that money and buys a house. It has to do with goods. That goes back to the law of God. What is the commandment that addresses these things? Thou shalt not covet.

    “What is at the root of problems with money, if you want to say the sin part of it? It's covetousness. The verse that is oft-quoted in the parable of talents is, “Occupy till I come.” I believe it's this: I believe it's not just spiritual. It's about everything. Occupy this life, the money, the house, the family. You're a member of this church? Be a good church member. Don't go there to get. It's not a movie theater. Go there to give. Go occupy your role as a member in the church, the wife to your husband, the mom, to your kids, the father to your kids, occupy it. Occupy it like crazy. Do it awesome. Guess what? Jesus comes back and says well done.”

    And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. – Luke 19:13

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

    About Jim Palumbo

    Jim Palumbo is Principal & Chief Development Officer at Dynamic Wealth Advisors. He is a veteran of the financial services industry with over 25 years of creating and managing organizations that create, grow, and preserve wealth

  • How to Turn Your Anxiety Into Healing

    Many of us have struggles that we aren’t comfortable sharing with others. These secret sins seem so taboo that if we told anyone, they might stop speaking to us. Often these deep soul wounds manifest as anxiety or anger or other sins that affect our relationships with friends, family and community. So how do we get to the root of these issues? How do we find healing from these sins that constantly seem to trip us up?

    Many of us have struggles that we aren’t comfortable sharing with others. These secret sins seem so taboo that if we told anyone, they might stop speaking to us. Often these deep soul wounds manifest as anxiety or anger or other sins that affect our relationships with friends, family and community. So how do we get to the root of these issues? How do we find healing from these sins that constantly seem to trip us up?

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • How should Christians deal with fear, anxiety and stress?
    • Is it a sin to be anxious?
    • How can we learn to be content?
    • If our discontentment is coming from misaligned values, how can we get them back on track?
    • If someone doesn’t feel they can be truly vulnerable in church, where can they find healing for the deep issues of the soul?

    Notable Quotes from the Podcast

    I pray that we, as Christians, get beyond always happy, peppy, bursting with songs. That is where we were meant to live, but you don't get there through denial. You get there through facing the crisis, hardship, suffering, and pain of life. Once you do, you come out of that with a maturity that you would not have otherwise. – Gary Wilkerson

    Worry is like a good rocking chair, it gives you something to do, but it doesn't get you anywhere. - Erma Bombeck

    When you're examining yourself and you're full of anxiety, that's a signal that something is off. We think, "Oh Lord, I'm so sorry. I'm anxious." There can be sin in anxiety because it's a lack of trust, but it also can be a signal. A lot of our emotions that we label as sinful are actually gifts. – Gary Wilkerson

    Contentment is born out of understanding biblical values, wanting those biblical values, and then asking for the grace to live in those biblical values.  – Gary Wilkerson

    God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can,
    And wisdom to know the difference. - Reinhold Niebuhr

    Sin is born out of a core pain and the poor choices we make because of that pain. I'm not saying that sin has an excuse. You are responsible for your sin. We have to deal with the fruit that we see, which is the sin. And we have to deal with the root as well, the healing. Our churches are very well versed at dealing with the sin and the fruit, but very poorly schooled and able to deal with the root of it, which is the need for healing of the soul. – Gary Wilkerson

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    “Be still, and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth!” – Psalm 46:10

    do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. – Philippians 4:6

    Not that I am speaking of being in need, for I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content. – Philippians 4:11

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

  • Caring For Yourself Will Help You Love Others Better

    On Instagram, the hashtag “loveyourself” has been used around 42 million times. In modern culture, however, this idea is usually attached to a ‘me’ mentality. But is there such a thing as biblical self-love? Can Christians unselfishly practice self-care? Yes! Learning to love ourselves in a biblical, God-centered way is the best thing we can do for our relationships. Once we care for ourselves physically, emotionally and spiritually, then we are better able to love others in a godly way.

    On Instagram, the hashtag “loveyourself” has been used around 42 million times. In modern culture, however, this idea is usually attached to a ‘me’ mentality. But is there such a thing as biblical self-love? Can Christians unselfishly practice self-care? Yes! Learning to love ourselves in a biblical, God-centered way is the best thing we can do for our relationships. Once we care for ourselves physically, emotionally and spiritually, then we are better able to love others in a godly way.

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • Why do my mistakes lead to thoughts of self-criticism and judgment?
    • How do I care for myself without being selfish?
    • Should regular self-care be a priority in my life?
    • How does my opinion of myself affect my relationships?

    Notable Quotes from the Podcast

    Mindfulness in the context of the mind of Christ can take you into truly knowing what needs to be jettison from yourself: behaviors, sinful patterns, and even internal voices of self-criticism. All of that's flesh, not just the bad things you do, but the bad things we believe about ourselves too. All of that doesn't belong in us. We jettison all that through repentance, through faith, through confession. – Gary Wilkerson

    As Jesus said, we should remember the poor. When I think about a world that is dying, my caring for myself, my soul care that the Bible requires and calls me and blesses me to be able to do, does not diminish me from the ability to be a servant, to love, to give, to be generous. It actually fuels me. It's not selfish. It's actually more generous because now I have something to give. – Gary Wilkerson

    Jesus said you clean the inside of the cup then the outside begins to take care of itself. So inside I have to be healed and healthy, and I need soul care to get me in that place. – Gary Wilkerson

    We start off in self-loathing, then try to earn our way into the good graces of other people and we're not ourselves. Every moment of the day there are still battles and there are still outward circumstances that try to draw us back into self-loathing and self-hatred. Once that battle has, to a large degree, been won, then there's that freedom that springs up to be yourself in an authentic way. People appreciate authenticity. – Gary Wilkerson

    A good tree bears good fruit. Being healed inside bears healthy results of healthy fruit, healthy relationships, healthy impact. – Gary Wilkerson

    The greatest impact I've ever had in my life has not been preaching to tens of thousands of people, traveling the world, or writing books. The greatest impact that I've had is a small group of people that I've been able to be myself and be alive and be healed, and then bring healing to them. – Gary Wilkerson

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control. – 2 Timothy 1:7

    The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ. – 1 Corinthians 2:15-16

    Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test! – 2 Corinthians 13:5

    You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean. – Matthew 23:26

    So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. – Matthew 7:17-18

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

  • Called to Be Perfect but Not Perfectionists

    A lot of people say that they’re a perfectionist. Being hyper-critical of our situation, our friends, our work and ourselves is encouraged by our culture. Many would say this is what drives us to do better. But what if it mostly just drives people to exhaustion, anxiety and depression? Perfectionism, never feeling like anything is good enough, always feeling like you need to do better and accomplish more, is like running on an endless treadmill. Worst of all, it’s motivated by fear. What if we were motivated by love rather than the fear of being less than perfect?

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • What is self-compassion? Is it selfish and self-indulgent?
    • If you’re supposed to die to self, how do you love yourself?
    • Why do small mistakes sometimes turn into self-loathing?
    • How do we stop treating ourselves in a loathsome way, but rather in a loving way?

    Notable Quotes from the Podcast

    I understand the mentality of such a wretch I am, and I can say that. I can say there's worminess to me, and there's wretchedness in me, and there's sinfulness in me, and there's despicable parts of me that I don't want to be like, but that's not who I am. – Gary Wilkerson

    There is a sinful wretchedness in a lost soul, but it doesn't mean that that's a worthlessness. A human being has value and worth in God's eyes, even a non-Christian human being. – Gary Wilkerson

    Just as the Bible says, "Don't be drunk with wine," it also says, "Love your neighbor as yourself." The word there' is "agape." It means unconditional love that is not based on performance. There's this call of scripture to obedience to love yourself. – Gary Wilkerson

    Loving yourself is not being selfish. It is not being self-absorbed. It is not being self-centered. As a matter of fact, the opposite is true. The more you have the agape for yourself, you're better able to give it. – Gary Wilkerson

    We spend a lot of our life not actually being ourselves, not comfortable with ourselves, feeling like everything we're doing is wrong. That's where perfectionism comes from. "I can correct the sense of worthlessness, the sense of never being enough, I can correct that if I'm perfect.” – Gary Wilkerson

    So many Christians are phonies, because they're not able to be real. They're not able to tell God or others their struggles pain, or failures. We hide things and we cover things, and we put on fronts. That's why the church gets the reputation of hypocritical. – Gary Wilkerson

    If you feel like you're never enough, no external validation will ever prove to you that you are enough. You'll never be healed of that internal wound, as long as you have the idol of external validation. – Gary Wilkerson

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    But the voice spoke again: “Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean.” – Acts 10:15

    Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? – Matthew 6:26

    The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ – Mark 12:31a

    And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it. – Matthew 7:26-27

    Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” – John 2:19

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

  • Why Are Pastors Struggling with Suicide?

    After the outpouring of responses to our pastors and suicide episode a few months ago, Gary Wilkerson answers some of the questions that viewers sent in about the nature of depression. He also addresses some misconceptions surrounding suicide, particularly in the church. As Gary responds to viewer comments and questions, he also encourages believers with specific ways they can find healing for this kind of deep hopelessness.

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • Are pastors above struggling with depression and suicide?
    • Are pastors caring enough for their own souls?
    • Do Christians rely too heavily on conferences and revivals rather than a consistent daily relationship with God?
    • Why does it seem like only Christians, and not other religions, struggle with depression and suicide?
    • Are pastors and others who are depressed or commit suicide possessed by the devil?

    Notable Quotes from the Podcast

    Pastors usually don't realize that they have to care for themselves. They feel like being a good pastor means you take care of everybody else before yourself. We take on more responsibility than we should. We try to fix people's problems when it's not up for us to fix. We feel responsible if something is not fixed right, we get full of self-doubt and criticism. – Gary Wilkerson

    Pastors are getting criticized a lot and if they have a tendency, like I've had in the past, to be self-critical then you've got three strikes against you. You've got yourself criticizing you, your congregation, and then certainly the enemy, the devil, criticizing you. That's just too much for any one person to bear and it'll take you down. – Gary Wilkerson

    I want to encourage people to realize pastors are human. They're not gods, mini-gods. They're people. They're just trying to be a step out to help bring us along. – Gary Wilkerson

    There is nothing wrong with revivals. I've gone to conferences and meetings where I've been refreshed, but if you're looking for that to be your source of life it's not going to get you there. Spiritual disciplines are more important. – Gary Wilkerson

    I tend to wake up, and I think a lot of people do, wake up having to revive themselves a little bit. The Bible says David encouraged himself in the Lord. Well, if he encouraged himself in the Lord, he must have been discouraged. I recommend people wake up in the morning and encourage themselves. – Gary Wilkerson

    God is love. God can judge and God can have wrath and will have wrath in the future as well but that's not who he is. It's something he will bring forth from His character or nature but His character in His divine essence is love. He loves these pastors and He loves them up to the last second when He's trying to rescue them from this malady and from this sickness and from this pain that they're in. – Gary Wilkerson

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    And David was greatly distressed, for the people spoke of stoning him, because all the people were bitter in soul, each for his sons and daughters. But David strengthened himself in the LORD his God. – 1 Samuel 30:6

    The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. - Lamentations 3:22-23

    Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why then has the health of the daughter of my people not been restored? - Jeremiah 8:22

    And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. – John 8:7

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

  • The Power and Simplicity of Prayer

    Prayer is a central piece of the Christian life, but actually doing it challenges many believers. We often don’t pray when we have chances to do so. Not praying has been a common human issue for a very long time, but why does reaching out to God seem so hard sometimes? This week, Pastor Carter Conlon of Times Square Church talks about the incredible power of prayer, misconceptions about prayer, the strange difficulty and the true simplicity of prayer.

    Prayer is a central piece of the Christian life, but actually doing it challenges many believers. We often don’t pray when we have chances to do so. Not praying has been a common human issue for a very long time, but why does reaching out to God seem so hard sometimes? This week, Pastor Carter Conlon of Times Square Church talks about the incredible power of prayer, misconceptions about prayer, the strange difficulty and the true simplicity of prayer.

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • How has prayer impacted your life?
    • What is prayer?
    • What happens when we pray?
    • Why don’t more Christians pray?
    • What do we do if it seems like our prayers aren’t being answered?
    • We need to pray like we've never prayed before. Why?

    Notable Quotes from the Podcast

    Prayer is just talking to God. Church experience tries to make it something else, tries to formalize it, or make it something where you have to yell with God, or you have to be in a certain posture or it's not prayer. – Carter Conlon

    Prayer now, to me, is a delight. It's not a job, it's not work or a chore. It's life. It's just the way I live it now. – Carter Conlon

    God doesn't take super men or women. He takes ordinary people who simply want a relationship with him. He begins to do supernatural things through their lives. – Carter Conlon

    God's timing is not our timing. We think we know how God should do something and when. I've learned over the years that God has to bring the right conditions. I’ve just learned to love the way that God does things. He doesn't do it the way we think he's going to.  – Carter Conlon

    The enemy really aligns himself to get us derailed from having the faith and confidence that God ultimately is out for our good. God's not against you, he's for you. – Gary Wilkerson

    I want to be that man in Ezekiel who's agreeing with God. My natural eye and heart want to cry out, "Judge it!" Instead, I'm saying, "God have mercy." Because I've not forgotten who I was. I was destined for hell and somebody prayed for me so shouldn’t I pray for others? – Carter Conlon

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. – Mark 11:24

    pray without ceasing – 1 Thessalonians 5:17

    For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? – Mark 8:36

    if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land. – 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. – 2 Peter 3:9

    And I sought for a man among them who should build up the wall and stand in the breach before me for the land, that I should not destroy it, but I found none. – Ezekiel 22:30

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO. 

  • Start Small, Trust God, and Watch What Happens

    It’s easy to despair at the problems in the world, feel overwhelmed and ask, “Why doesn’t God save those poor people? Why doesn’t he do something?” Long-time ministry leader, John Bueno felt this way when faced with a seemingly overwhelming issue in El Salvador. The problem was so huge, devastating and pervasive that solving it appeared impossible. However, God led John to tackle this country-wide problem with small, simple steps and a faithful heart. This week, John joins us to share how God broke his heart and then opened an incredible opportunity for healing and redemption in this country he loves.

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • How did Child Hope get started and what has been its effect on El Salvador?
    • What do we do if God is calling us to do something, but we don’t have the resources for it?

    The Bible says don't just pray for people in need, do something. – John Bueno

    Sponsor a child through a ministry or bring a meal to neighbors. You can do great things for God or you can do small things for God that turn out to be a great impact on people. – Gary Wilkerson

    In Zechariah it says not to despise the day of small beginnings, because God delights in small beginnings. It's a lesson for all of us. We start with what we have, with the doors that are open, and then we let the Lord do the rest. – John Bueno

    All God expects us to do is what we can. If we're obedient, sensitive to what he asks us to do, the opportunities that he sets before us, then he gives us the ability to do even bigger things. But it's a process. – John Bueno

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? – James 2:15-16

    Do not despise these small beginnings, for the Lord rejoices to see the work begin, to see the plumb line in Zerubbabel’s hand. – Zechariah 4:10

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.

  • Church, It's Time to Get in the Game

    Evangelism taps into some Christians’ fears of not being knowledgeable enough or being shamed, but it also isn’t a priority for many others. The Bible, however, calls us to tell others the good news of Christ’s sacrifice. Every blessing God gives us and every trial he brings us through is a testament of his goodness not only to us but also to others. Once we begin to live in a rhythm of evangelism, we will see incredible blessings.

    Key Questions from the Podcast

    • Do I have to share my faith with others?
    • How do spiritual disciplines of prayer, reading the Bible, and attending church help you evangelize?
    • Shouldn’t we wait for the Holy Spirit to lead us to share our faith with someone?
    • Are introverts expected to share their faith? Isn’t that a gift for extroverts?

    Notable Quotes from the Podcast

    The lead link in our Christian life—we give to the poor, give sacrificially, pray for people, all the things as Christians they're all wonderful—the lead link is sharing faith. That's why he made it the Great Commission. – Barry Meguiar

    The church is sitting dead in the water, and we're allowing this world to happen. It's our fault. It's not theirs. They're lost. Satan blinds the minds of unbelievers. We have to open their eyes with the word of God and with our own lives. – Barry Meguiar

    When you follow the nudge, you live in the F.O.G. When the Holy Spirit is nudging you to share your faith and you do it, you’re living in the favor of God. – Barry Meguiar

    It doesn't matter if you're a loud person, quiet person, meek person, it really doesn't even matter how much Bible you can quote, it's just loving on people, caring for people. – Barry Meguiar

    Bible Verses Referenced in the Podcast

    These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full. – John 15:11

    But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind.  For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways. – James 1:6–8

    In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. – 2 Corinthians 4:4

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. – Romans 8:28

    For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost. – Luke 19:10

    Resources Mentioned in the Podcast

    About Gary Wilkerson

    Gary Wilkerson is the President of World Challenge, an international mission organization that was founded by his father, David Wilkerson. He is also the Founding Pastor of The Springs Church, which he launched in 2009 with a handful of people. He has traveled nationally and internationally at conferences and conducted mission ventures such as church planting, starting orphanages, clinics, feeding programs among the poorest of the poor and the most unreached people of the earth. Gary and his wife Kelly have four children and live in Colorado Springs, CO.